I was fortunate to be diagnosed and treated immediately, with only hands affected at that time. Blood test confirmed. I’ve been to several different rheumatologists over the years, and they’ve never been hesitant to treat no matter how mild or how severe my symptoms were. More likely, they wanted to OVERtreat.
I am a “5” on joint involvement (it’s faster to tell you which joints aren’t affected). I am a “0” on serology, and a “1” on duration of synovitis. Synovitis lasted 9 months with my first flare last year and ended after 2 months on DMARD’s. I score a “0” on Acute Phase Reactants giving me a total score of 6.
I am one of the 33-45% who has had normal blood tests throughout.
I just had my one year anniversary with RA. I take Sulfasalazine and Plaquenil. Celebrex gave me a GI bleed this past summer so no more “NSAID’s” for me. I was lucky and had diagnosis within 4 months of the onset of RA at age 44.
I have been reading the interesting posts on remission. If this is remission I am sorely disappointed. While not in the active flare I had I am by no means free of this disease and feel no where near my pre-RA self. I would call it “managed” at this point. My swelling is gone, my pain levels are way down, the stiffness is vastly improved and my energy levels are much better. I have much to be thankful for. I have been holding my breath as winter approaches, wondering when the next flare might come.
Keep up the great work. I really appreciate all of your research and reporting.
Bloods at diagnosis Anti CCP 336, RF 21, CRP 17, ESR 32. Now 16 months after diagnosis – on Prednisone, Sulphasalazine and Arava (Leflunomide) ESR 30, CRP 22. Yet my Rheummy says my bloods are fine!! Hasn’t re-done RF or Anti CCP recently – however also have anaemia consistently. Hence my decision to fire my Rheummy!! My knees – particularly left constantly swollen and identical toe deformity progressing – frustrated ++
Arrrgh – Here is what gets me, who decides if you are swollen? The first three Docs that I pleaded with (only one of which was a Rheumatologist) recognized that there was some swelling but didn’t find it…”diagnostic” and with negative labs there was no diagnosis or treatment. I had a great number of joints involved, so based on my assessment I hit the magic #6. I finally found the right Dr. I didn’t even have to plead. He practically diagnosed me from across the room and immediately started me on MXT. He also informed me about being serum negative and how it could take 2 years for my blood work to catch up with the disease, if ever. Of course, waiting for 2 years to see what happens is not a good policy with RAD. PS – I travel 2 hours to a different city to see Dr. Right. It is worth it.
It sure is. Just to be treated instead of wasting time pleading to be believed.
“Who decides what’s swollen?” is sure a key question w/ this disease. 96% of those w/ so-called “clinical remission” based on lack of perceotion of what I call “conspicuous swelling” are actually swollen when examined by skillful use of mri or ultrasound.
When my symptoms began, I would have only been a 4. My rheumy started treatment immediately tho (sulphasalazine and plaquenil, prednisone and mobic) to get my symptoms under control. In part, the prednisone was a test – to see if I responded. I did, and so he concluded that while my ESR and CRP were normal, inflammation was the cause of my pain, not osteo or something else. So he was treating me long before I met the official diagnosis criteria, in the hope that I would *never* meet the criteria. I think he was very forward thinking. Unfortunately my disease hasn’t turned out to be so mild. But still no where near as bad as many others. I believe if he hadn’t started treatment, I would surely be worse off.
I first tested positive for systemic inflammation in Jan 2011.
In May 2011, I was diagnosed with an odd spondyloarthropathy and started on Sulfasalazine. No improvement.
At first rheumy appt:
Joint Involvement=4/5
Serology=0/3
Duration of Synovitis=1/1
Acute Phase Reactants=1/1
Total Score=6/10
Today:
Joint Involvement=5/5
Serology=0/3
Duration of Synovitis=1/1
Acute Phase Reactants=1/1
Total Score= 7/10
I don’t like the criteria. I’ve had JRA since 1997…I was 9 years old.
I would’ve only been a 4 and because I was,completely seronegative, I was diagnosed via synovectomy. For ten years I was only treated with NSAIDs which I can no longer take. I also have Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome which my docs completely missed. Both rheumatologists were so awful I never wanted to see one again and didn’t until I found my current one.
The erosions saved me. I then had a positive ANA which was pretty low. I have several skin and systemic issues and actually also fit Lupus criteria…my RA is quite atypical in that it’s not symmetric etc.
I was treated with Prednisone for five years and was pulled off Plaquenil last year. I’ve been on methotrexate since 2011. I complained about my elbow for over two years and the MRI that was finally ordered showed erosion. I’m in the worst flare to date and now have ESR and CRP but have never been tested for CCP.
I’m on max of methotrexate and now MUST have a biologic. We,are trying to get Rituxan but my insurance is dragging us through the mud.
A lot of this could have been prevented and even now, I’d only be a 6 because all my other symptoms are ignored by the new criteria.
10 pre diagnosis, 7 on MTX, this week, 0 on HUmira +MTX ! Woot, woot )
I was fortunate to be diagnosed and treated immediately, with only hands affected at that time. Blood test confirmed. I’ve been to several different rheumatologists over the years, and they’ve never been hesitant to treat no matter how mild or how severe my symptoms were. More likely, they wanted to OVERtreat.
Saw this news release today and it seemed topical:
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I am a “5” on joint involvement (it’s faster to tell you which joints aren’t affected). I am a “0” on serology, and a “1” on duration of synovitis. Synovitis lasted 9 months with my first flare last year and ended after 2 months on DMARD’s. I score a “0” on Acute Phase Reactants giving me a total score of 6.
I am one of the 33-45% who has had normal blood tests throughout.
I just had my one year anniversary with RA. I take Sulfasalazine and Plaquenil. Celebrex gave me a GI bleed this past summer so no more “NSAID’s” for me. I was lucky and had diagnosis within 4 months of the onset of RA at age 44.
I have been reading the interesting posts on remission. If this is remission I am sorely disappointed. While not in the active flare I had I am by no means free of this disease and feel no where near my pre-RA self. I would call it “managed” at this point. My swelling is gone, my pain levels are way down, the stiffness is vastly improved and my energy levels are much better. I have much to be thankful for. I have been holding my breath as winter approaches, wondering when the next flare might come.
Keep up the great work. I really appreciate all of your research and reporting.
Jamie
“9” at diagnosis:8/17/09 CRP-9.99 ESR-34 RF-204 Anti-CCP>250
9/22/09 after 15mg MTX
CRP and ESR in normal range
10 at diagnosis and 4 right now. While better still not where I would like to be.
Bloods at diagnosis Anti CCP 336, RF 21, CRP 17, ESR 32. Now 16 months after diagnosis – on Prednisone, Sulphasalazine and Arava (Leflunomide) ESR 30, CRP 22. Yet my Rheummy says my bloods are fine!! Hasn’t re-done RF or Anti CCP recently – however also have anaemia consistently. Hence my decision to fire my Rheummy!! My knees – particularly left constantly swollen and identical toe deformity progressing – frustrated ++
Oh and 7 at diagnosis and 9 now so I’m obviously improving. :-/
Joints 5 + Serology 0 + Synovitis 1+ CRP/ESR 1 = 7 Pts for 6 Years. RA/ANA low positive in last 6 mos. Just dx’d 3 weeks ago.
How many times were you seen, Mary Lynn, before diagnosis?
It varies how the standards are used & many still use the 1987 guidelines. Most people have to go to more than one rheum doc to get a diagnosis.
Arrrgh – Here is what gets me, who decides if you are swollen? The first three Docs that I pleaded with (only one of which was a Rheumatologist) recognized that there was some swelling but didn’t find it…”diagnostic” and with negative labs there was no diagnosis or treatment. I had a great number of joints involved, so based on my assessment I hit the magic #6. I finally found the right Dr. I didn’t even have to plead. He practically diagnosed me from across the room and immediately started me on MXT. He also informed me about being serum negative and how it could take 2 years for my blood work to catch up with the disease, if ever. Of course, waiting for 2 years to see what happens is not a good policy with RAD. PS – I travel 2 hours to a different city to see Dr. Right. It is worth it.
It sure is. Just to be treated instead of wasting time pleading to be believed.
“Who decides what’s swollen?” is sure a key question w/ this disease. 96% of those w/ so-called “clinical remission” based on lack of perceotion of what I call “conspicuous swelling” are actually swollen when examined by skillful use of mri or ultrasound.
When my symptoms began, I would have only been a 4. My rheumy started treatment immediately tho (sulphasalazine and plaquenil, prednisone and mobic) to get my symptoms under control. In part, the prednisone was a test – to see if I responded. I did, and so he concluded that while my ESR and CRP were normal, inflammation was the cause of my pain, not osteo or something else. So he was treating me long before I met the official diagnosis criteria, in the hope that I would *never* meet the criteria. I think he was very forward thinking. Unfortunately my disease hasn’t turned out to be so mild. But still no where near as bad as many others. I believe if he hadn’t started treatment, I would surely be worse off.
I first tested positive for systemic inflammation in Jan 2011.
In May 2011, I was diagnosed with an odd spondyloarthropathy and started on Sulfasalazine. No improvement.
At first rheumy appt:
Joint Involvement=4/5
Serology=0/3
Duration of Synovitis=1/1
Acute Phase Reactants=1/1
Total Score=6/10
Today:
Joint Involvement=5/5
Serology=0/3
Duration of Synovitis=1/1
Acute Phase Reactants=1/1
Total Score= 7/10
Still don’t have a firm diagnosis
I don’t like the criteria. I’ve had JRA since 1997…I was 9 years old.
I would’ve only been a 4 and because I was,completely seronegative, I was diagnosed via synovectomy. For ten years I was only treated with NSAIDs which I can no longer take. I also have Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome which my docs completely missed. Both rheumatologists were so awful I never wanted to see one again and didn’t until I found my current one.
The erosions saved me. I then had a positive ANA which was pretty low. I have several skin and systemic issues and actually also fit Lupus criteria…my RA is quite atypical in that it’s not symmetric etc.
I was treated with Prednisone for five years and was pulled off Plaquenil last year. I’ve been on methotrexate since 2011. I complained about my elbow for over two years and the MRI that was finally ordered showed erosion. I’m in the worst flare to date and now have ESR and CRP but have never been tested for CCP.
I’m on max of methotrexate and now MUST have a biologic. We,are trying to get Rituxan but my insurance is dragging us through the mud.
A lot of this could have been prevented and even now, I’d only be a 6 because all my other symptoms are ignored by the new criteria.